Help talk:Annotation naming guideline
"[[is located in::Asia]]" and "[[is member of::European Union]]" is against current practice on Ontoworld. Uniformity is damaged if people start following this guideline. If this is made an official guideline a bot should make all necessary changes. If not, I recommend to follow the current practice.
Even apart from what the current practice is, I prefer the form "located in" and "member of", with the convention that this means "currently". If needed an additional relation such as relation:was capital of can be introduced.
Adding unnecessary words in a property name just to facilitate searching does not seem a good idea. Giving a guideline not to include "is" as first word in a search phrase seems better.--Patrick 08:21, 10 December 2006 (CET)
- Well, That are good points. Now, feel free to change this guideline so that it will fit the practices more better. I've introduced the noun only to have a possibility to distinguish between Attributes and Relations. — MovGP0 16:55, 10 December 2006 (CET)
- Markus said earlier that edits in the Help: namespace, unless they are minor fixes, should be discussed with the developers, since the Help: namespace of ontoworld.org is considered by many as the official docu for SMW. Therefore I use talk pages like this and my user-subpages.--Patrick 00:38, 11 December 2006 (CET)
"[[president of United States from:=1789]] is against the practice of using a noun for the name of an attribute. "President" is a noun, but not one describing the attribute. This name would be more suitable for a relation. Currently we have Relation:Inaugurated as president of the United States in year.--Patrick 08:33, 10 December 2006 (CET)
- Using "Inaugurated as president" is ok. Its more precise, even not the way common people would say that in real-world human-to-human talking. Attribute/Relation-Names should be easy to remember, so users don't begin to reinvent the wheel to often.
- Anyway, having a Relation instead of an Attribute for Years is only possible if there is a separate Article for each and every year, which is not the case for every wiki.
- As attribute name I suggest Attribute:Start date of presidency of the United States, or a more general attribute such as Attribute:Start date for a more specific page, e.g. Presidency of the United States of George Walker Bush.--Patrick 01:05, 11 December 2006 (CET)
- Also the Articles describing the Years should also provide their Literal Value as Attribute. At best a year could get expressed as a kind of Date using Wildcards, ie. "xx-xx-1897" is the year without further details to the month or day, while "xx-06-1987" is the sixth month in the same year. Also Wildcards would allow something like "year of birth:=xx-xx-1987", "month of birth:=xx-06-xxxx", and "day of birth:=12-xx-xxxx" all with the same Datatype, so that sorting is more easily done and a construction like "date of birth:= this.day_of_birth + this.month_of_birth + this.year_of_birth" (adding the values of known attributes) will get possible in possible feature releases of SMW.
- Therefore I recommend to use Type:Date in the most wikis for such a purpose as described here. — MovGP0 17:56, 10 December 2006 (CET)
 Is this the Official or Un-Official guideline?
- This is an inofficial guideline produced by SMW users. It does not necessarily reflect the opinion of the SMW developers.
I'm not sure what that means. I suspect it means UNofficial, but I could be wrong. Someone please clarify. --Dme 06:47, 2 September 2007 (CEST)