Talk:Germany
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[edit] German Flag
The link to the Flag seems to be interresting. I guess it would be nice to upload a gif/svg Image and then create a semantic link to this Image:
[[flag::Image:Flag of Germany.gif]]
And then make statements about this Flag in the according article (Image:Flag of Germany.gif):
[[color::black]][[color::red]][[color::gold]]
— MovGP0 22:41, 17 August 2006 (CEST)
[edit] The "Type"-page contains no relevant information
[edit] every semantik object should have it's own name space like:
- <aObject>.<method>
- <aCountry>.GDP
This way the information could be accessed like
- Germany.GDP
[edit] Weblink
[edit] Dated link annotations
I have just dumped most of the data from the wikipedia article on Germany in here ammended to add the "has capital"" property where appropriate. This means that Germany now has six capitals - Vienna, Frankfurt, Berlin, Weimar, Bonn and East Berlin.
While much of the ambiguity can be reduced by attaching the "has capital" attribute to subpages it does seem a pity to have the technology dictating the form in which information is presented. Even the sub-page route has limits. There are a number of countries which have moved their capital without an associated gross political upheaval and name change - Brazil and Nigeria for instance. Even in Germany the move of the capital from Bonn to Berlin while associated with reunification, didn't happen at the same time.
Should we create a new relation "Had Capital"? Does this work in other languages?
Is there any way to attach time attributes to such a relation "had capital::Bonn<start>1945<end>1990"?
- N-ary relations, planned for SMW 1.0. In the implementation as it stands you'd create [[Property:has capital (dated)]], [[Property:population (dated)]], etc., and for each such dated property its Property:Has type would include two additional Type:Dates for the start and end dates. -- Skierpage 05:29, 11 September 2007 (CEST)
What we have at present should be adequate for a catalog or a gazetteer but may have trouible with an encyclopedia.
- It does not seem currently possible to have, instead of a triple (country, has capital, city), 4-tuples like (country, got capital, year, city). The best workaround seems to be to have separate pages for periods, even without gross political upheaval between them.--Patrick 00:29, 30 September 2006 (CEST)
- Can we tie an attribute to a section of a page? Maybe a specialmark to say an attribute only applies to the section? We can certainly attach start and end dates etc. to each sub page but it could get messy if there is a subpage every time one attribute changes. Census every 5 years = new population figure (which is only applicable to that year - not to the whole 5 years); British empire adding a new colony every few years; new page for the Federal Republic of Germany on unification and another new page when the capital moves from Bonn to Berlin. Plus all these pages have funny names so more attributes have to be added to tell us what the page is really about.Filceolaire 11:40, 2 October 2006 (CEST) (Same guy as above)
- I guess not all info need to be captured in annotations. For example, one may restrict oneself to current population and current capital instead of all historic ones.--Patrick 13:33, 2 October 2006 (CEST)
- I guess. Is it worth creating "had capital" and "was capital of" relationships in addition to but distinct from the relationships showing the current status? (Ah. I see Patrick has already done this. It does looks good.) Is there any prospect of real 4tuples getting added in the future? I can think of a lot of uses, especially for historical data which changed over time. There could also be many uses for location dependent data. Filceolaire 16:44, 4 October 2006 (CEST)
BTW: Weimar has never been a capital of Germany. The Weimar Republic just got its name because the national assembly proclaiming the republic convened in Weimar. --Langec 18:17, 2 October 2006 (CEST)
